31 July 2007

Class Size Reduction - Makes Sense or Does it?

--- In wccusdtalk@yahoogroups.com, "Alicia" <ladyluvslife@...> wrote:

If this district decides NOT to "participate" in class size
reduction??
What a thought. But true, very possible.

The more I think about it, the more I hope to see the district
attempt to get out of "participation" in class size reduction.
I think that this would be the catalyst some parents would need
to become outraged enough to use their power to get on top of what
is going on at their kid's school.

Again, in the neediest of schools, so much money is pouring into
this district, class size reduction could be written directly into
their site plan, some sites even using categorical funding to pay
for this for K-3 graders. Some sites get HUGE grants from outside
organizations with the stipulation of only "improving student
achievement" What better way than to ensure our children are
given the best opportunity to learn by not being sandwiched into
a huge classroom of kids and one teacher?

And yes, the site can be DIRECTED by the board to do this. Its
owning this Class Size Reduction and how important it is to our
kids. Just ONCE I would like to see our school board take a
stand before the threats of cutting all these things is pulled
out, Just ONCE I would like to see our school board take a stand
and FIND the $$ to pay for something so important.

Well, on the bright side, if the board does NOT decide
to "participate" in class size reduction - one can only
hope this will get the attention of some parents.

AMEDINA

--- In wccusdtalk@yahoogroups.com, Tammera Campbell
<tammeracampbell@> wrote:
>
> Jill,
> Just because the California Department of Education is
> stating that the program is not going away, does not
> mean that this school district may decide not to
> participate. Those are two different things.
> Tammy Campbell
>
> --- Charley Cowens <charley.cowens@> wrote:
>
> > Here's my version of simple math. Assume 60 students
> > with 2 teachers (30 per
> > class). Add CSR -> Hire an extra teacher (now 20 per
> > class). State pays 60 x
> > 1024 to subsidize the CSR. This comes out to $61,440
> > for ALL costs
> > (benefits, etc.) related to that teacher. This is
> > probably a lot in some
> > Districts, but not here.
> >
> > Then, look at the overall funding for CSR in our
> > district: State subsidy is
> > $9,876,480 and extra subsidy from parcel tax is
> > $1,800,900, which is about
> > 18% extra. So, this oversimplified hypothetical
> > extra teacher comes out to
> > $72,643. This seems like a lot, but remember it's
> > paying for the total cost
> > of the teacher and the teachers who gravitate to CSR
> > will probably tend to
> > be more senior teachers. When spread out over the
> > whole District, there will
> > also be higher average costs for the extra teachers
> > hired because of less
> > than perfect distribution of CSR students over our
> > many small schools (as
> > you yourself point out).
> >
> > Charley Cowens
> > 61440
> >
> >
> > On 7/30/07, sunsetjill <sunsetjill@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Since I did call the California Department of
> > Education and did look
> > > at figures I feel I can simplify this for you. I
> > was told this
> > > program is not going away! The state is financing
> > it! Although the
> > > State representative said it was not a perfect
> > formula and some
> > > school districts have had to drop the funding
> > because of excess
> > > costs.
> > > The excess costs come from:
> > > Lack of facilities to house the students-even
> > though I noticed there
> > > is also funding of $40,000.00 for this problem.
> > > What does a school do when they have 6 extra
> > students and have to
> > > pay a full teacher salary for only 6 students.
> > > The ADA formula is based on a projected enrollment
> > since the budget
> > > does have to be turned in prior to actual
> > enrollment. It is not
> > > reduced by parcel taxes. I believe it is $1024.00
> > per student as I
> > > was told. You can look at the California
> > Department of Education
> > > WEB Site and look at all the districts
> > distributions and easily see
> > > that it is a little over $1000.00 per student.
> > > OK so lets take a simple perfect world look what
> > that means.
> > > If every school had 60 students per grade level
> > and let's take the
> > > average teacher salary of WCCUSD at $52,000.00.
> > > Cost of Teacher Salary with out class size
> > reduction:
> > > 14 teachers grades K-6
> > > 14 x $52,000.00 = $728,000.00 Teachers Salary
> > >
> > > Cost of Teacher Salary with class size reduction:
> > > 18 teacher grades K-6
> > > 18 x $52,000.00 = $936,000.00
> > > Less Sate funding -$245,760.00 (240 students x
> > $1024.00 grades K-3)
> > > $690,240.00 Teachers Salary
> > > In a perfect world the state funding would help us
> > get an extra
> > > $37,760.00 per school. Lets face it not all
> > schools have this
> > > stability or configuration. So if you trust
> > WCCUSD to be honest
> > > then you should definitely vote yes on measure G,
> > but according to
> > > simple math we are not getting the entire picture!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> >
> >
>
>
> Tammera (Tammy) E. Campbell
> 2668 Alhambra Way
> Pinole, CA 94564
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